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The Big Applesauce Moderators ([personal profile] applesaucemod) wrote in [community profile] applesaucedream2013-10-05 05:39 pm

A Day Late and a Dollar Short



As far as dreams go, this seems surprisingly...normal. True, the dreamers of Manhattan and beyond will find themselves stranded in the middle of the ocean on a fairly deserted rocky island, but it's nothing so unusual as the labyrinth from last time, and no one appears to have become an animal or reverted to an insane past (or future) version of themself. Besides, well, rocks and grass, there's nothing here but an abandoned lighthouse, the doors and windows broken, and the spare furniture worn by the weather. You can go up the spiral staircase to look at the view, but there's nothing to see but the endless ocean. One might almost think tonight was a night for simple socializing via the telepathic current.

As if anything to do with the rift is ever that simple, you silly bumpkin. How quickly each person realizes what is unusual about tonight's dream will depend in large part on their personality. Some might go the entire night without noticing (except from the distress of others, naturally), but some will find out the instant they open their mouths to converse with another dreamer. You see, each and every dreamer will be completely unable to tell a lie for as long as the dream lasts. The truth might be evaded by omission, but any attempt to say that which is untrue will result in the corresponding truth emerging instead.

Good thing it's just a dream and everyone's going to forget in the morning, right? Right??


[Mod note: As usual, players can choose to have their characters remember or forget anything that happens in the Dreaming. As per usual party rules, both members and non-members are welcome to play any character in this post, regardless of whether that character is currently in the game. Unlike usual, tonight's theme is not optional; all characters will be subject to the enforced truth-telling. Have fun!]
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-09 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
"Isn't that what burners are for?" Yeah, Yuri's not so impressed. "I mean, if it was a bottomless pot of coffee, that'd be another thing. I could go for that."

Is she glad they're off the topic of weres, huh huh?
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[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-09 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe. She's not sure how she feels about playing tour guide for her own universe.

Thank the gods poor, sweet Mary isn't here to witness this appalling lack of appreciation of her gifts. Sunshine arches an eyebrow. "It stays hot, though. In your cup." Did he not get that?

"Anyway, being able to stitch a seam that never unravels or pour coffee that's always hot is going to come in handy more often than being able to turn a blade of grass into a matchstick and back." Yes, and back. Her grandmother didn't teach her much, but Sunshine learned that you always leave something the way you found it, if you can, and tidy up after yourself.
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-09 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
No. No, he did not get that, and now he looks suitably impressed. "Okay," he says. "I guess that's" kind of "really cool."

Hey, he didn't mean to sound that impressed. She probably thinks he's a dork now, because clearly this is the first thing he's said to give anyone that impression. Frowning, he feels the need to point out how changing stuff actually sounds really super useful.

"But you could use that for all kinds of things," he argues. "You could change pennies into quarters, or turn a broken cup into a whole one, or...um..." Seriously, it's got to have uses, he just ran out of ones off the top of his head.
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[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-09 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That's better. Hey, if she's going to play tour guide, she'd rather not have him turning his nose up at the sights. And Mary's her friend.

As for his ideas about transmuting... where to begin? Sunshine plunks herself down on a rock and pulls a cookie out of her bag, sparing a sorry look for the cinnamon bun he's ignoring. "It's complicated," she informs him. "First off, you're not really supposed to change things and then leave them changed - you switch them back unless you have a really compelling reason not to." The only object she changed and didn't change back was her grandmother's ring. She knows why she never fixed it: she was ashamed of how it ad turned out, and worried she'd make an even more hideous botch of it. She doesn't know why her grandmother kept the monstrosity, though.

"Secondly, some objects shift more easily than others, and worked metal is low on that list. Changing a 1978 penny into a 1987 penny is hard, let alone changing it into a quarter." Regardless of the year. And okay, maybe she can transmute worked metals with more ease than one might expect, but let's not forget the whole fraudulent aspect of that particular idea. Or the fact that quarters aren't worth enough to make full-time coin transmutation a worthwhile venture, even if she never got caught.

"And thirdly, I've never changed anything large enough to not fit inside my hands." She demonstrates by cupping her Killer Zebra between her palms for a moment, though she's not about to go changing that into anything else. This is just a size demonstration, don't get excited. "Which limits things a bit."

Opening her hands, she takes a bite of the cookie and shrugs. Could she transmute something bigger? Maybe, if it was a nice, sunny day and she had a very compelling reason to try. Frankly, she'd much rather be baking.
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-09 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yuri has the decency to look sheepish. He knows he was suggesting something illegal, but he remembers how much of a pain it was to keep enough quarters back when he used a public laundromat. He perks up when he sees her close her hands around the cookie, thinking she's going to show him, and is disappointed when she decidedly does not.

"Can you change liquids?" he asks, thinking of their previous exchange about coffee. He catches that look at his hand and, remembering it's full of bun, takes a bite.
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[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-09 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Good question. Sunshine polishes off the cookie and brushes crumbs off of her hands... hands which make for inefficient holders of liquid. There's a certain amount of water in a flower, she supposes - does that count for anything?

"Barring the amount of water inherent in a flower or a blade of grass," no, "I don't know. I've never tried."

Maybe because in order to test whether you'd been successful, you'd probably want to transmute one drinkable thing into another drinkable thing, and that would require a taste test to see if it had worked. So much for changing it back after it's been swallowed. Also, while 'never ingest something you've transmuted' isn't an official rule her grandmother taught her, it seems like common sense.
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-10 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
So she's never transmuted a cookie into another kind of cookie? It seems logical. Then again, Yuri would be all over trying out a new 'magic' power, so he's probably coming at this from a different angle than her.

"I guess it'd be kind of hard if it has to be in your hands," admits Yuri.
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[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-10 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Logical as compared to just baking more than one kind of cookie in the first place? At least when she bakes, she knows exactly what's going into it. If she bungled something during the baking process, she'd be able to guess where it went wrong, and she'd just have a cookie that tasted terrible (which is bad enough) to show for her troubles. If she bungled something during the transmutation process, what would that leave her? A little pile of separated ingredients? A cookie that looks and tastes normal except for the part where it turns your tongue purple or knocks you unconscious for seven minutes?

At least he's appreciative of the relative difficulty of holding onto liquids, and she briefly inclines her head toward him in acknowledgement. "It's not a trick I use very often," she says. Then, because sometimes a tour guide wants to know just a little about the home country, she asks, "You really don't have magic handlers where you come from?"
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-11 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't she have control over it, though? Maybe Yuri just has too much faith in her abilities.

He shakes his head. "Not that I know of. My universe is one of those ones that's all about science and computers and stuff." Except for weres...but actually, those have been explained pretty well by science. He doesn't remember all the ins and outs of how it works, but then he barely missed failing biology.
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[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-11 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Call it one of the pitfalls of living in a universe with all the malignant kinds of magic and precious little of the fluffy fairy godmother kind. Magic might impress gawkers, and it'll probably save your life at one time or another, but it doesn't solve any problems that it didn't create in the first place. No magic, no Others - no Others, no need for the wards and charms that hold them at bay. No magic at all, and she can get back to just being Sunshine, goddess of the bakery, without having to worry about vampire affinities or potential demon taints or overbearing SOF.

Also, excuse you, Yuri. The existence of magic doesn't preclude science, thank you very much. He ought to know better, even if there aren't magic handlers in his universe.

She arches an eyebrow at him. "Yeah, we have science, too. All the best stuff is probably in sucker hands, but we drive cars and have globenet connections and everything." And Charlie's has a proper bakery, not a stone oven fueled with - with peat. Shiva wept.
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-11 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
It seems to in Daine's world, and a lot like it. Yuri hasn't met all that many people who are from a world with similar technological development and that has magic. Not real magic, at least, not the kind of stuff you hear about in fairy tales.

"Sucker?" he asks, wondering if it's some kind of reference to a corporation or secret society. He adds, "And we just call it the internet."
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[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-11 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
She'd love to have the kind of magic you hear about in fairy tales. Or at least more of the positive kind.

"Vampire," she elaborates. "Let me guess: you don't have those, either." If she sounded a bit dubious when she asked about magic handlers, now, she sounds a bit envious. Okay, Con is her friend - or their relationship is as close to 'friendship' as any can be when there's a human and a vampire involved - but he's the exception to the rule... the rule being that suckers are the worst of the Others.
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-13 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
"Not where I come from," Yuri confirms. "There are some in New York now, but they're from other universes. Some of them are okay, but some not so much."

Hey, Sunshine, some people's vampires are different.
rae_of_sun: (downcast)

[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-13 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
That earns him a highly skeptical look. 'Okay' is not a term she's ever heard anyone use in relation to suckers - even when it might apply, like with Con, though that's perhaps due to the fact that she's the only human she knows who's okay with him. And, again, he's the exception to what is still a pretty hard and fast rule.

Or maybe she's still having some issues with the idea of a habitable New York. Major population centers did not fare well during the Wars, and her universe's NYC is one of those too-numerous places so well and truly wrecked that not even the wilderness will take it back.

"Count yourself lucky," she says, making a face. "We'll be lucky if we aren't all under the dark in a hundred years." Which, if she goes on with the magic-handling, might be something she gets to witness firsthand. What joy.
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-13 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
"'Under the dark'? Do you mean like turned into vampires? Where would they get blood?"

Yuri's pretty sure he's seen a movie about this. In fact, he knows he has; he really enjoyed it. But yeah, does she have a problem with the idea that maybe not all vampires are like the ones in her world? Yuri's even ready to accept -- okay, he might be ready to accept -- that weres from other universes aren't like him. So what's so weird about vampires coming in different flavors?
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[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-13 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
She might be willing to concede that vampires come in different flavors... if she was also willing to concede the whole other-universes thing, which currently ranks as less plausible than 'really weird dream' when all is said and done. It's clear that this guy has no idea what real vampires are like, which might otherwise tip the scales in the other universe's favor, but her universe has its own little old lady brigade: people (of all ages and genders) deluded enough to think that the Others are harmless, cute things that live in gardens and wear harebells. While some Others might masquerade as such, that doesn't mean they are that way.

"I mean the suckers are going to be running the show. They're not going to turn everyone - they'd need someone to eat, as you said - but..." she hunches her shoulders in an irritated shrug. But it's not like anyone will still be able to kid themselves that the vampires aren't in charge. But they might just keep humans in camps, for all anyone knows. It's not a pleasant thing to contemplate, so she tries not to, but it's also pretty godsdamn hard to forget.
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-14 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't she lump weres in with these 'Others,' though? Yuri's not exactly going to take it well if she starts going off about how everyone non-human (and he'd argue with the idea that he's not a human to begin with) is to be distrusted. Sure, he's a vicious beast once each month, but it's not like he can help it.

"Wow," he says. "Are there that many of them? I mean, back home we've got a lot of weres, but we're still a minority."
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[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-14 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone does, not just her. And Sunshine's probably more open-minded than most, given her relationship with Con. Besides, most weres aren't anywhere near as bad as vampires. There's the part where they're normal people for most of the month - and those who get ahold of the drugs are normal people all month. And not all weres are created equal. A werechicken or a werecat isn't going to be the sort of nuisance that, say, wererats and werecoyotes can be.

Trouble is, vampires are bad enough that their badness tends to rub off on anyone who isn't strictly human. That's why demon crosses tend to try and keep things as discreet as possible. Even if their partblood heritage only manifests itself in a relatively harmless way - like growing in a second row of teeth, or hovering a foot above the bed every night after you fall asleep - people are still going to look at you sideways for being fractionally one of them. Hell, even peris don't exactly shout it from the rooftops.

Okay, so it's pretty cool to be suspected of being a fallen angel, but that's about it. Anyone else under the Other umbrella keeps their head down, whether they really need to or not.

"No one really knows how many there are," Sunshine admits. "A lot of people got turned during the Wars, but it's not like there's an Other census." Or that the government would get anything close to an accurate count, even if they could find enough foolhardy census-takers to attempt one. "Enough for us to be losing, anyway."
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-14 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
In Yuri's world, on the other hand, they know exactly how many weres are around. Okay, so developing countries probably don't have an accurate count, and there are sure to be little pockets of weres living in secret out in the woods here and there (there'd been a lot of speculation that the Unabomber was one, which never quite got completely dispelled from the public opinion even when he went to jail and failed to turn into anything under observation. Those crazy weres, right? Surely they're more likely to become terrorists, yada yada).

"We do have a census -- I mean, you don't have to tell your neighbors or anything as long as you're set up with a cage, but I had to register, and I had to put it on my college applications." That's right, cage. Standard method, yo. "That last part sucked, by the way."
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[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-15 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
She does offer a sympathetic wince, though she's not sure that weres having a somewhat harder time isn't balanced out by the fact that in his (supposed) universe, there's no looming threat of a vampire takeover. "So you just have weres?" she asks, for the sake of clarification. "No peris or anything else?" Weird.
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-15 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Somewhat?

"Just weres," he confirms. "Lots of different kinds, though. What are peris?"
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[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-15 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Well, given present company, she's probably not going to bring up the gross yearly mop-up of certain weres that happens in New Arcadia - and plenty of other places, too. If a were manages to stay under the radar, great. If not... well. Best-case scenario involves SOF cages.

"People with peri blood are like Mary," she explains, happy enough to talk about this particular kind of partblood. "They usually have some kind of trick they can do, and it might not be terribly useful, but it won't be trouble."

Now she's once again wondering just what kind of a were Yuri is. Seems rude to ask. All she really wants to do is reassure herself that he's not a wereskunk, but they're getting along reasonably well. If he is a wereskunk, it'd be stupid to risk pissing him off with her nosiness.
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-15 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
"And who decides what counts as trouble?" asks Yuri, not much caring for the sound of it. It doesn't sound like Mary is dangerous at all -- except maybe if someone gets scalded -- but he's faced seen enough oppression to know that the ones in charge aren't always so great at using their common sense and seeing that someone isn't going to go around hurting people just because they're different.
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[personal profile] rae_of_sun 2013-10-15 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Sunshine snorts indelicately. "Anything that reminds people too much of vampires is trouble." Which is why she'll admit to being a stuff-changer well before she ever admits to her weird counteraffinity for vampires.

... Or to being able to see in the dark, when she can help it, because that's a sucker trick. Even if people assume it's just demon blood manifesting itself, you don't want people thinking you've got magic-handling genes and demonic ones. That's like calmly announcing that you could go violently insane at any minute.

And she thinks SOF is being overbearing now.
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[personal profile] stronglikebear 2013-10-15 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
"Are the vampires really that bad?" asks Yuri. He's ready to believe that the vampires of her world aren't up to any good, but it doesn't sound like the 'normal' people there are much better, with all their suspicions regarding anyone who doesn't pass the grade for being perfectly human.

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